m:Do you and Ivy have any projects or hobbies aside from The Cramps?
l:Yeah, we read a lot. I'm really into stereo photography. I have about sixty stereo cameras from the turn of the century. That's my big hobby. And we're both into painting and drawing and stuff, but just as a hobby.
m:I was reading about how you own the original painting of Marcel Duchamp's "Nude Descending a Staircase" which inspired the song "Naked Girl Falling Down the Stairs" and you also have a quote from Man Ray in the liner notes . . . are you and Ivy pretty well steeped in art and philosophy?
l: Well, I'm not sure how to put it. I guess you could say that. I'm very interested in interesting people. I love Man Ray and Marcel Duchamp. They were both a couple of real weirdos. I have a painting of Marcel Duchamp on the wall in front of me right now that was in a magazine called Art in America a couple of years ago when they did a retrospective of his work. And it's really great, he looks like a skinhead from about six years ago, but this painting was taken in 1915. It's a picture of him sitting on a park bench looking like Mr. Hyde. He's got his hands up like they're claws and his eyes are bugging out and his face has a horrible expression. And on the top of his head, he's shaved across the middle of his head to the back where it comes to a point and then he shaved a star in the back of his head. And this was 1915, so he was the first punk rocker I think. He sure dismantled everything in art before him.
